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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 21 @ 12:41 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Odds of College Players Making NHL Based On What Age They Leave School Odds of College Players Making NHL Based On What Age They Leave School
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 21 @ 12:55 PM ET


The success rates for drafted players are much better and more likely the relevant figures to be looking at as pretty much no one makes the NHL undrafted.

I think any logical person would say Crosby and Malkin are at least as good as Toews and Kane when healthy, but unfortunately durability is a major reason CHI has been better than PIT this decade.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jul 21 @ 1:00 PM ET
Not surprised to see Sid and Geno going toe to toe with those two. They are still a better duo, just haven't had much of a support team. Remember Sid playing with Dupuis and Steve Sullivan as a top line against the Flyers

What a mess
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 21 @ 1:04 PM ET
Threw this in the last blog before this one came up... but yikes... Holtby wants 8+ million deal from arbitration... that'll cripple Washington's excess cap huh? He won't get that much... but reading 6.5-7 isn't out of the realm of possibilities.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 21 @ 1:30 PM ET
I could be wrong, but I think that Matt Read was 25 when he left college.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:44 PM ET
I could be wrong, but I think that Matt Read was 25 when he left college.
- jmatchett383

that was high school
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Jul 21 @ 1:44 PM ET
I could be wrong, but I think that Matt Read was 25 when he left college.


You know a lot of people go to college for 7 years......
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Jul 21 @ 1:51 PM ET
that was high school



Bradlee3
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tanev hit was clean.
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jul 21 @ 1:55 PM ET
what's the difference in number of games played ? that would effect all of those numbers I do believe.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 21 @ 1:59 PM ET
You know a lot of people go to college for 7 years......
- stowerkraut


I know. They're called doctors.
thevelvetfog1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.19.2015

Jul 21 @ 1:59 PM ET
"You know a lot of people go to college for 7 years...... "

I took 7 years on the 5 year plan....
thevelvetfog1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.19.2015

Jul 21 @ 2:03 PM ET
"Simply put, Ray Shero is not nearly as good as Stan Bowman."

First, injuries are DRASTICALLY different between these two teams during this time period, especially for key players.

Second, Stan Bowman is benefiting from the players drafted / developed / traded for by former Blackhawks GM Dale Tallon.

jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 21 @ 2:06 PM ET
"Simply put, Ray Shero is not nearly as good as Stan Bowman."

First, injuries are DRASTICALLY different between these two teams during this time period, especially for key players.

Second, Stan Bowman is benefiting from the players drafted / developed / traded for by former Blackhawks GM Dale Tallon.

- thevelvetfog1


Very true. But Stan Bowman recognized that the team would need to replenish some years and Shero just doubled down on veterans and short term moves so there is certainly a philosophical difference in roster construction.
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 21 @ 2:10 PM ET
Simply put bowman is way better than shero. Well ya he drafted saad instead of joe morrow
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 21 @ 2:31 PM ET
Yeah but Joe Morrow turned into Brendan Morrow who was a key contributed to our top 9 during our 2013 cup run.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 21 @ 2:32 PM ET
You know a lot of people go to college for 7 years......
- stowerkraut


A lot of people go for much longer than that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 21 @ 2:33 PM ET
that was high school
- dbell646


I'm sure this quote would infuriate Pierre McGuire.
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jul 21 @ 2:45 PM ET
Threw this in the last blog before this one came up... but yikes... Holtby wants 8+ million deal from arbitration... that'll cripple Washington's excess cap huh? He won't get that much... but reading 6.5-7 isn't out of the realm of possibilities.
- Guile

Just read the same blog. I almost spit out my drink when i saw that. He & his agent are stupid for even asking that price. Holtby has finally had 1 decent season and wants paid Lundquist money! What a jerk!!
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jul 21 @ 2:55 PM ET
Just read the same blog. I almost spit out my drink when i saw that. He & his agent are stupid for even asking that price. Holtby has finally had 1 decent season and wants paid Lundquist money! What a jerk!!
- joescullz


It's a negotiating tactic....

He'll get around 6-6.5
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jul 21 @ 2:58 PM ET
It's a negotiating tactic....

He'll get around 6-6.5

- cap1681


Way to high. I wouldnt give him more than 4 per
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Jul 21 @ 3:03 PM ET
I hope Holtby does get $8 million just to put a screwing to Washington's cap situation.
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Jul 21 @ 3:07 PM ET
I'm sure this quote would infuriate Pierre McGuire.
- jmatchett383


Speaking of Pierre, does anyone else wonder what the Pens roster would currently look like if Maguire took the GM job ?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 21 @ 3:23 PM ET
Speaking of Pierre, does anyone else wonder what the Pens roster would currently look like if Maguire took the GM job ?
- willi

No. I'm not a masochist who spends his time contemplating the darkest timeline.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
Being an NHL regular means having 200+ games or 2 1/2 seasons. Those rates are probably lower for the older guys because they haven't played that many yet
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 21 @ 4:10 PM ET
Just read the same blog. I almost spit out my drink when i saw that. He & his agent are stupid for even asking that price. Holtby has finally had 1 decent season and wants paid Lundquist money! What a jerk!!
- joescullz



Hey... I think its asking way too much, but I HOPE he gets it. He had better than a decent season, he had a GOOD season last year, I'll admit it. Arguably a top 5 goalie last year on a God awful defensive team, could almost call it a great season. And of course, he had it on the most important year for a new deal, the final year of the contract.

I really don't consider it a jerk move, unless Washington offered him 4.5-5.5 mil and he said no. If they threw 3-4 mil at him, then hes in the right.
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